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 Post subject: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:51 pm 
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I am in the process of modding my 09WRX with the Nexus 7 tablet radio swap, I know I can run an aftermarket radio through the tablet but can I use the USB port on the tablet and run romraider from the tablet so I can view my car's tuning info on the go? Any info would be greatly appreciated


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:14 am 
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There have been attempts to run RomRaider on tablet or specialty hardware.
Here, on the Raspberry PI: viewtopic.php?t=8969
HP Touchpad: viewtopic.php?t=7549

You need:
  • Java for your OS
  • A Tactrix Openport 1.3 or VAGCOM cable
  • Drivers for the chipset of the cable, typically the FTDI chipset
  • A version of RXTX binary built for your OS. The binary is needed so RR can see the VAGCOM as a serial port device.
  • An OTG adapter cable to be able to connect the VAGCOM cable to the tablet
  • And of course the Linux version of RomRaider. The Zipped version would be best for you to work with.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:22 pm 
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ok i see thanks for the info ill continue looking into making this mod work, and if it does ill repost on what i did


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:28 am 
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Wrx09 wrote:
if it does ill repost on what i did


please do! i bet this would get a lot of hits...


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:12 am 
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Wrx09 wrote:
ok i see thanks for the info ill continue looking into making this mod work, and if it does ill repost on what i did



Any update? I am VERY interested in doing this as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:33 am 
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You cant run it on android OS that Ive seen. I have it on my windows 8 asus vivo smart tab. It will not run on windows 8 RT. I used the adapter dongle, running the current version of romraider with 32bit java. It does not like usb hubs, so currently i have only run the tactrix to it, but not tried logworks for my innovate LC-1. It will not run the usb adapter and the tactrix at the same time. I used the USB host OTG dongle. My laptop doesnt like running anything through the USB hub either, so for now the tablet is only useful for monitoring everything but AFR. I have a gauge so its not a huge deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:46 am 
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So, there now there is no chance to run RomRaider on a Windows8 RT ?

We are getting Windows based smart phones on our office, it will be very nice, if I can use it also for RomRaider Logger..

But no way yet, AFAIS ?!

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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:53 pm 
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dschultz wrote:
There have been attempts to run RomRaider on tablet or specialty hardware.
Here, on the Raspberry PI: viewtopic.php?t=8969
HP Touchpad: viewtopic.php?t=7549

You need:
  • Java for your OS
  • A Tactrix Openport 1.3 or VAGCOM cable
  • Drivers for the chipset of the cable, typically the FTDI chipset
  • A version of RXTX binary built for your OS. The binary is needed so RR can see the VAGCOM as a serial port device.
  • An OTG adapter cable to be able to connect the VAGCOM cable to the tablet
  • And of course the Linux version of RomRaider. The Zipped version would be best for you to work with.

I'm bumping this thread because I have come tantalizingly close to getting Romraider logger running with a VAGCOM cable on my Android tablet, but if dschultz or anyone else can help me with the last step, that would be great.

I need to know more about the possibility of using FTDI's D2XX API driver with Romraider in Linux, instead of a Virtual Com Port driver, as I will explain.

I am using an Acer B1-750, that I have rooted. Because I have root, I can run "Linux Deploy" by meefik, available on the Google Play store.

I have installed Java and Romraider logger into the Linux session, and they run fine.

The trouble is, that the Acer B1-750 does not have the FTDI driver enabled in the kernel, and Linux Deploy can only use drivers that are first loaded by the Android host operating system.

When I plug the VAGCOM cable into an On The Go adapter, and then open a terminal and check dmesg, it shows that the Acer finds the FTDI cable, and recognizes its model and serial number, but it does not "attach" it.

I don't get a "ttyUSB0".

Romraider logger only shows one com port, as you can see in the attached picture, and as you can see it's just /dev/ttyS0.

So I turned to FTDI's instructions for loading a Virtual Com Port driver in Android: http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documen ... ndroid.pdf

Then I sweated through finding the source code for the B1-750 and compiling a FTDI driver module. But after all that, I hit a brick wall when I opened a terminal in the Android host and tried to load the module with the command "insmod ftdi_sio.ko".

I got:
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insmod: init_module 'ftdi_sio.ko' failed (Required key not available)

Sad trombone noise...

So that's not going to work without having an Acer security signed module, and I am certain that Acer is not going to release the security key for me to do that.

However, if loading a Virtual Com Port driver into the Android host operating system is impossible, I wondered if it would be possible to run Romraider using the D2XX API driver from within the Linux Deploy session.

The FTDI manual for Linux applications seems to suggest that is possible: http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documen ... _Linux.pdf

There really isn't much guidance on whether a D2XX driver can work with Romraider, and I am far from being experienced with Linux.

Can any of you point me in the right direction here?


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:12 pm 
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RomRaider is not written to talk to the FTDI API, it depends entirely on the RXTXcomm API which is for serial ports.


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:58 am 
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Do you have an OpenPort 2.0 cable, maybe this could work?
https://github.com/dschultzca/j2534


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:34 pm 
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Hey man,

I have Ecuflash & Romraider running on a Winbook TW700. It does have a full windows 8.1 OS, it's not the Windows 8.1 RT (I really don't know what that means). I found a guy who has them on ebay, $70.00, you can't beat it!!!
I just thought I would chime in since I seen your question posted.

Randall


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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:17 pm 
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I have a windows 10 tablet, everything works just the same as my laptop.

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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:56 am 
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jon7009 wrote:
I have a windows 10 tablet, everything works just the same as my laptop.


:)

Meanwhile, Smartphone runs with Windows10..
As I unterstand, Win10 OS of phone is quite simular to Win10 on tablet or PC..

So, if you run RR on Win10-tablet, it is possible to run on Win10 phone too ?

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 Post subject: Re: Can Romraider run on a tablet?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:15 pm 
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No it has to do with the architecture - win10 tablets (for the most part) have x86 processors, whereas windows phone has arm (and runs metro apps).


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